Found a 2008 Holiday Rambler Endeavor posted on RVtrader online. Contacted RV trader to verify price (it seemed too low), they contacted seller who emailed me as [email protected] We corresponded throughout the day yesterday, and it continued to seem legitimate until he mentioned the EBay Escrow service and VPP. He kept pushing to start the transaction. I asked for a VIN and his full name and address, including the title holders. He would not reply. Contacted rvtraderonline today, and they pulled the ad because it did not seem legitimate. Offered the free delivery and free return if not happy, etc. To good to be true usually means just that.
I have received a scam invoice after discussing the purchase on email. The ebayer posted 6 or 7 copies of the auction, cancelled them and sent this (XXXs are mine deletions of private data):
Congratulations! You are approved to buy this eBay item using Buy It Now.
Canon EF 500mm F4 IS (Image Stabilizer) Lens !
Sale price: USD 1,347.00
Shipping & Handling: USD 0.00
Sales tax: USD 0.00
Subtotal: USD 1,347.00
Get Your Item
Details for transaction number : 234911894576
Canon EF 500mm F4 IS (Image Stabilizer) Lens
Sale Date: August 30, 2009
Seller: Steve Meda
Payment details: Please follow this eBay Purchase Protection invoice to complete the eBay Checkout
How to make payment:
1. Locate the nearest Western Union Office.
2. Make the payment with cash using the above seller information.
3. After you complete the transfer email the following information
– MTCN# ( the 10 digits number )
– Exact sender’s name on file with Western Union.
– Exact sender’s address on file with Western Union.
– Total Amount sent.
Email the payment information to the seller at : [email protected]
Purchase protection and refund:
Currently, this seller has a US $4.800.00 deposit in an eBay managed purchase protection account.
Transactions with this eBay seller are covered by purchase protection against fraud and description errors. For your safety, this account was locked today, for 90 days time period. The seller is unable to withdraw any money from it, within this period.
Should you need a refund for this transaction, the insured amount will be taken from the seller’s purchase protection account and sent to you. The refund is sent to your bank account, or by check or money order. The way you are refunded is at your choice. You have 90 days from the above verification date to request a refund. Refund requests are processed within 3 days.
The insurer of this transaction is eBay INC. located at 2145 HamiltonAvenue , San Jose , CA 95125 , United States of America .
The account is managed by eBay’s Square Trade center .
This transaction is supervised by eBay’s Safe Harbor team.
Conditions to be met before you may ask for a refund:
Here are the situations suitable for a refund request:
1. If the item doesn’t arrive and/or the seller stops communications after the payment was received;
2. If the merchandise you receive has different specifications than the ones you agreed on;
3. If your merchandise arrives in a much longer period than the one you agreed on (more than 15 days from the payment clearance day);
For cases 2. and 3. you have to send back the merchandise to the seller prior to ask for your refund. If you did not pay the seller by payment method required by us, your refund request will be declined.
Important Usage Guidelines:
1. The contact information should only be used for resolving matters related to eBay. Any other use is strictly prohibited.
2. This transaction is protected by eBay services such as insurance, feedback and dispute resolution.
3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions with this eBay member.
4. Should you need to dispute this transaction, keep the transaction number at hand when contacting eBay. Any complaints must be filed within 90 days from the verification date.
This e-mail message was sent to you from eBay SafeHarbor team, with the full support of the SquareTrade center.
The seller was informed about this transaction being started and is awaiting your payment. It is recommended to send the payment as soon as possible, because your purchase protection is valid for 30 days only.
If you encounter any problems with this transaction, please contact us.
When contacting our support team, use the reply feature so that all previous correspondences are included in your email. Otherwise, we will not be able to process your request.
Safeharbor Department (Trust and Safety Department)
Found a scam when looking for a new car. The car was on ebay supposingly in RI. When I emailed the guy, he emailed me the following information…
You made the right choice! My 2001 BMW 325XI, 136,145 miles is in great shape, no engine problems, damages or hidden defects. It was always garaged and never smoked in, comes with a clear title.
For the moment I’m out of the states with my business but the car is located in Las Vegas, NV at the shipping company sealed and ready to be delivered (shipping fees already paid). The car will be delivered in 2-3 days (depends on your location), and you will have 5 days to test and inspect the car. My final price is $2600 – shipping included!
The transaction will be made under eBay’s protection program for our safety. It’s just the biggest company on the internet and I trust them.
In order to start the eBay transaction I need the following information: -Your full name and -Your shipping address.
I will contact eBay to start the transaction and they will send you an invoice with complete details about how to purchase the car.
My best wishes and I’m waiting your response so we can move forward with this deal.
I am glad I found this site before going any farther. E-mailed her in response to the ad on Craigslist and the ad was immediately marked for delete on Craigslist, but next day got an e-mail:
On Aug 28, 2009, Diane Gleason wrote:
The bike is located in Port Allen, Louisiana and I am selling it at this price ($2900) because i just finished the divorce with my husband. The divorce is finished and I own this bike. I work as a dealer on a cruise ship and i want to sell it because I need money for other things. This bike is in excellent working condition, no scratches, flaws or any kind of damage, slightly used, in 100% working and looking conditions and comes with a clear titleready for transfer. From the beginning you have to know that for the payment I request only secure pay, I prefer the payment to be done using eBay services. Since i am working most of my time, and divorced I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Buyer Protection Program in order for me and you to be 100% protected. The final price that I want for this bike is $2900. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive payment and shipping details from them.
I will wait your answer very soon only if you are interested to buy because i don’t have any free time to waste.
You can see the rest of the pictures by click on the link below:
I responded with name, address, and phone number to which I got this reply:
year :2003 – VIN: 1HFSC47043A200445- 13,400 miles – Engine size 1800cc
The bike is already at the shipping company in Port Allen, Louisiana sealed and ready to be shipped. I’m very busy with my job so this is the reason why I chose to sell my bike over the internet. I have a contract with eBay so this deal must go through them. According with the eBay you have 5 days from the time you will receive the bike to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not. Here is how it will work:
1.First of all I will need the following details from you:
– Full Name
– Full Shipping Address
2. After I will receive the details from you, I will forward them to eBay.
3. After they will process your info, they will send you the invoice. In the invoice you will receive the details on how to make a refundable payment.
4. eBay will contact me and release the shipping to you. After you receive the bike you will have 5 days to test it, verify and do whatever you need to the bike. If you decide to keep it, then I will receive the payment from eBay .
5. If you will decide that you will not buy the bike, eBay will refund the money and I will have the shipping company come down to pick up my bike.You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them. I look forward to hear from you.
Immediately followed by 2 e-mails saying from ebay (here is one of them), but look at address shown:
———— Forwarded message ————
Date: Aug 28, 2009
Subject: Important Notice! Case ID HGW14R138L3D8
Item Description: 2003 Honda Goldwing
Case ID: HGW14R138L3D8
Dear (removed my name)
Please inform us if you have received the invoice for payment. Once we receive the email and fax from you that will include the payment details as explained in the invoice, we will instruct the seller to start the shipping process. We will hold the payment until you send us your confirmation that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon as we receive your confirmation we will release the payment to the seller. You will receive further details regarding the shipping process (courier information, tracking method, expected delivery date) after the payment confirmation.
*NOTE: It may occur that your e-mail doesn`t support HTML language and that is why you haven`t received the invoice from us. Please check your bulk/junk/spam/ messages, the invoice may have ended there because of the ever increasing filters of the e-mails nowdays.
Thank you for using eBay.
She does the typical pay through ebay- your fully protected b.s. Just dont do it. If a deal is too good to be true, it probably is. She is ‘too busy’ to meet up…the boat is unavailable to be seen. The pages she has for the boat are hardly legit. Two words: stay away.
Email 1:Con Guy Replying to my interest in the car.
I have received your email regarding the car that I have for sale on Craigslist.There are no scratches and the car was never involved in an accident.The car is in great condition and runs great.There are no electrical or mechanical problems.I’m selling it so cheap because i am in a desperate situation.My nine year old daughter(Jane) suffers from a rare disease.It’s called Bone Cancer and i need the money for her surgery.In about two Weeks i have to gather the money.As you see,i have to move fast.The car is at the shipping company in Billings,MT.In case it gets sold I will take care of shipping.If you are interested email me back.
Email 2:Me wanting to see him face-to-face
Email 3:Con Guy saying he can’t
Thank for your reply.No offense,but you realise that at this price I have many clients interested and I can not fix a meeting with everyone.I prefer using email until we are sure that we have a deal.Also i have very little spare time.I am caught between work and hospital,at my daughter.I will ship the car at your address.I think I can have it there in 3 working days.I will take care of the shipping charges as I told you in my first email.The payment will be done through eBay.I am a member of the eBay Buyer Protection Program and using this service you will get a 3 days testing period after delivery.During the shipping and the 3 days testing period your money will be into eBay’s account.After the testing period you will make your final decision and you will announce eBay if you will keep the car or not.If yes,then eBay releases the funds to me,if not,you will send the car back to eBay,get your money back,no questions asked,shipping back will be my concern.Please take in to consideration that I will get paid only after you receive the car and make sure everything is as agreed. If you are interested please send me your full name,address and phone number so i can register the transaction at eBay.
I looked up his email which ended in @ussarmy.net. I had asked a friend in the marines if ussarmy.net was easy to make and so forth. He said it was fake. Also, his daughter’s rare disease is only found in adults. I was so close to giving in.
Below is an email of a seller accepting an offer, then providing instructions to click on the link to particpate in VPP. The VPP sends a request to send money via Western Union to an authorized agent to hold the money until the transaction is complete.
I said i am willing to negotiate, but i was not thinking that i will have to sell the boat for this amount. I really need the money at this point and as i said, i have the shipping already paid…so, i accept your $5,300.
From my part we have a deal.
So, if you agree too, please visit this ebay page and see details about their VPP program which is suitable for our deal.
This will practically allow me to receive payment only after you will receive, inspect and agree to keep it.
I suppose you should confirm your participation (acceptance to my offer) by filling your details and sending them to ebay.
After that I think we should both receive confirmations and instruction directly from ebay.
Hear you back soon,
This is a scam. Ebay does not handle your funds or ship things for you. That is why they have paypal other means of payments and the shipping is worked out between seller and buyer, not ebay. I almost fell for this thinking it was a new program ebay had, but like they say, if something seems too good to be true, it usually is, and a $11,000.00 car for $2,800?? and you send the money to a trust fund? all of the sudden their great email correspondences have incorrect grammar?and they will not give you any means to verify it is a real deal? and when you tell them you are not sending it without verification all of the sudden you no longer hear from them??? and then you find a website like this one that has the EXACT same wording that has scammed other people? Well, live and learn it is a SCAM!!!
here’s the emails I recieved:
Last email ( after I demanded a way to verify it was a legitimate sale )
Here is how it works:
1. First of all I will need the following details from you: full
name, shipping address and telephone number.
2. After I will receive the details from you, I will forward them to eBay.
3. After they will process your info, they will send us both invoices
4. After you will make the payment in an eBay trust fund account and
confirm it to them they will contact me and I will ship the car to
you. The shipping will take 2 days. I will pay for it. After you
receive the car you will have 3 days to test, verify and do whatever
you need to the car. If you will buy, then I will receive the payment
details from eBay so that I can pick up the money.
5. If the car is not as I told you or have some problems, or is not as
described, they will refund you 100%. There is no risk in this deal. I
don’t touch your money until you receive and inspect the car. The
transaction is simple so everything should go as planed. If you will
decide that you will not buy the car there will be no need to ship it
back because I will surely find a buyer in your area.
Thanks in advance!
First email (When I initially asked about the car)
Thanks for replying to my ad. I want you to know the car is in excellent condition with no rust or any kind of damage anywhere and it doesn’t need any maintenance. The odometer shows 41937 miles. I can provide you an Autocheck report for the car. Title is clear and free of liens. This 2005 Honda Civic LX has an automatic transmission and it’s very easy to drive even for a beginner.
My price is $2800. I am now in a divorce with my ex and i am in desperate need of money to pay the mortgage on my house. That’s my only reason for selling it otherwise I wouldn’t do it.
The deal will be handled by eBay trough their eBay Vehicle Purchase Program . They will handle the title and money transfer and deliver the car to your location. The car is at their office in Atlanta GA.
The best part about this is that you’ll get 3 days money back guarantee. If at the end of those 3 days you decide not to keep it you’ll get a full refund by them. If you want the Civic and if you have the money available all you have to do now is to send me your full name and your address. As soon as I hear that from you I will initiate the transaction through them.
The process is very simple and risk free for both of us.
All the pictures can be seen here: http://s570.photobucket.com/albums….. ( I deleted the rest of this because I didn’t know what I could legally post.)
The name of the seller was : Cathy Mayers
as they say… buyer beware!! and if it seems too good to be true, it usually is! Check it out first!
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Follow up message
As I said the car is in Metuchen NJ but I am in Alaska like I said I am going trough a divorce so I must to be here. Right now the car is at the DAS (trucking company) warehouse kept in a sealed container ready for delivery and since I am not at home right now a test drive it is not possible. However I do offer an inspection period prior buying the car if we close the deal trough ebay motors vehicle purchase protection program.
The car will be insured during transportation and it will be delivered at your address in maximum 1-2 business days (depends of your location). Along with the car you will receive a bill of sale in your name and signed by me and the title of the car.
* All I want is from you is if you are agree so I can contact ebay and after that, they will contact you and explain, guide you all the steps of the transaction and insurance. If you want to make this deal I will need the following details from you*
Full name and address
: Shipping is included in the final price ($2.500 + $300 shipping cost already paid) , as I explained, my buyer changed his mind after I have made the arrangements to ship the car. The trucking company would not refund me but can ship my car to anywhere within continental US and Canada, so I’ve left it at their warehouse and it’s ready to ship at anytime.
I found an unbelievable vehicle for sale on Oregonlive.com and began dealing with the “owner.” Margaret told me that she is a casino dealer on cruise ships so couldn’t enjoy her car. From the pictures the car is incrediable so why only $5,500? This was an obvious scam from the beginning and when I looked up scams using the eBay VPP I found email after email that used the exact same wording and “story line”. Is there a site that is training these people on what to say? After I called her bluff I simply never heard back from her. She is probably just busy on the ship!
Here are the emails…….
I will not be pursuing this purchase. I spoke to eBay motors today and they stated clearly that the vehicle protection program is not available unless the vehicle is listed and purchased off of the eBay motors site. I asked if these services are available if the item was listed but the auction has ended and they stated that No, it is ONLY available if the vehicle is purchased. You would have to list this again on eBay to have this protection program. I’m feeling like this is not a valid sale.
The car was listed on eBay but the auction has ended. We can make the transaction through eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection once the car was registered at eBay. So if you want to buy the car I will need the following details from you:
eBay user ID
After I will have all this details I will forward them to eBay and I will proceed the order. After you will be approved to buy the car from me eBay will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal. Waiting your email with the requested details.
I have researched the eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program and it states clearly that this protection program “is offered protection only for eligible transactions on vehicles listed on eBay Motors site (eBay.motors.com)”. I do not find your vehicle listed on the eBay site. Would you please let me know where I can find it? The VPP clearly states that this coverage cannot be obtained for payment between seller and buyer on vehicles listed on any other sites.
The VIN# is 2HNYD28387H519394. I have to tell you that I’m currently at work. As I already told you, I work as a dealer on a cruise ship and I left the car in Philadelphia at the shipping company. It’s already packed and waiting to be shipped anywhere. You will receive all the documents of the car (owner’s manuals, keys, clear title, bill of sale) in order to register it under your name. If you are interested to purchase the car, I have done some researching and the best way to close the deal is through eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program. The transaction fits the Vehicle Protection plan and will be covered by eBay. Vehicle Purchase Protection reimburses buyers who are involved in a vehicle transaction through their program. The program provides reimbursement for all the situations that can appear in a transaction. The money will be sent to an eBay agent. After the payment is confirmed and secured by eBay I will start the shipping. The car will be in front at your door in max 3 days. From the moment you receive the car you have a 15 days inspection period. After the 15 days you have to decide if you want to keep the car or not. If you’ll keep it, the payment will be released to me. In case you will not like the car and decide not to keep it, you will have to ship it back and you will be fully refunded. If you agree I will need your full name and complete shipping address, your phone# and your eBay user ID.
Hi, happy to hear from you. WOW, what an exciting job you have. I would like to purchase the car. I was hoping to make payment in full with a cashier’s check – are you willing to accept that? I would arrive to pick up the vehicle with cashier’s check in hand. If this is a problem just let me know. I would plan to purchase the vehicle next Saturday, August 22nd. In order to do this I need the vehicle VIN number to secure insurance on it prior to pick up. I also would need your location for pick up. You are welcome to call me at 541-548-6717 or 541-788-6421. If there is anything you need from me, please call or email me.
I’m writing you regarding my 2007 Acura MDX. The car is in perfect condition, no scratches or any damages and it has a clear title. The car has only 12,800 miles on it. If you are interested in purchasing, the price is $5,500. I sell the car at this price because I can’t enjoy it due to my job (I work as a casino dealer on a cruise ship) plus that I have some personal problems. Regarding the payment I will use only eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program so we can both be protected. Looking forward to hear from you.