2008 Black Sierra Denali – MSN Auto’s / Auto Trader
My Dad recently was purchasing a vehicle over the internet. I warned him about it, because you have no idea what is on the other end of that transfer. My grandma died about 2 years ago, and left my Dad her house in which case we sold it, and my Dad pocketed the cash. He was down to his last 22,000 dollars, and had been searching for a newer vehicle the last year and a half. He was always saying, “This is the last vehicle I will ever buy, so I better make a good choice.” Well, he was scammed by a man of the alias Chris Larsen, which is of course a funny name for a man with a heavy accent. My Dad couldn’t tell if he was middle eastern, or Mexican. He lives in Delaware (that’s the only truth) and sends out a large amount of photos in which case you can see his face in the reflection of the rear view mirror in one. He sends a carfax along with it, and even answers his phone.
First, my Dad sent 22,000 and the man called back 2 days later (with the money supposedly sitting at MSN Auto’s) and said that his wife’s lawyer found out that he was selling that Denali for that cheap (my Dad called it a grudge sale, just wanted to get away from the wife in a nasty divorce) and the guy wanted more money out of my Dad. But, what was weird and I warned him about this the whole time (he feels like such a dumba** he says) the guy only wanted an extra 2 thousand dollars. He claimed the lawyer was going to end the sale if he didn’t pay him an extra 2 grand, and he’d call the driver and stop him and make him come back. My Dad got ahold of him 3 days after he was “supposed” to receive the truck, and the guy claimed to be shocked and said he’d call my Dad back after he called to see where the driver was. After that, his phone was busy. This man also claimed to be a freighter pilot, which probably means he smuggles crap in and out of the country.
Well, he said my Dad would have to go through MSN Auto’s so everything is safe. I don’t know how they did it because my Dad went through MSN Auto’s and now has no truck, and 24,000 dollars floating around out there somewhere. Chase Bank is trying to stop it, my parents bank won’t do anything about it, the FBI won’t handle anything under 70 Million (Except at their Internet Crime Complaint Department) and the local police are “looking into it”. I feel so horrible that my Dad got scammed, and now he can’t buy a new vehicle. He’s been driving a 1993 Chevy Silverado 1500 Suburban since 1993. Since then, he’s bought my mother a new car for their anniversary in 2007. He’s bought me a new car when I graduated High School 5 years ago. I feel SO bad that he can’t get himself a truck now because of this person. Everything was completely legit, or so it seemed.
I don’t have the pictures, my Dad does. But, if anyone wants them really bad, I can sure get them from him and send them along. This man has also advertised the same truck about 8 or 9 different times, through out Florida and on Auto Trader. My Dad didn’t see that before hand, because it wasn’t on there until he “purchased” a vehicle. But, he did find the truck. The truck is at a dealership in Delaware. A man (not by the name Chris Larsen, but it was the same guy as described by the picture in the rear view, and his story about a divorce) traded in that exact Denali a while back for a Chevy Cobalt. So, he did have a truck, not his real name, and he sold it to the dealership way before he started this scam.
He made a mention of a point of contact in Denver. I have no idea what that is about, but this guy needs to be kicked, stabbed, beaten, punched, and whacked by everything known to man. Including his Denali. If anyone knows what else I can possibly do about this, email me at MissSketch@gmail.com. This happened oh, I’d say about a week ago. This dealership in Delaware has this guys real information, which our local police plan on getting (at their own pace, and someday.. you know, after the money is completely gone and unable to be frozen) and we live in Utah, so we can’t just drive over there. Although, I am seriously considering it if I cannot find a solution that fits my needs very soon. If this happened to your family, you’d be that mad too.
Scam reported at FightTheScams.com
turbo91189 says:
Mr Chris Larsen was not smart enough to use a different name but his MO is quite transparent. Here is his email to me regarding an C55 AMG he is trying to sell through Auto Trader.
“Hi ,
The car is still for sale. The asking price is $16,300. It is located in McHenry, IL and the VIN is WDBRF76J15F715516. The car is registered on my name and the title is clear (no lien). It is in great condition, no dents or scratches. It was always garaged and the regular maintenance was done in time. It wasn’t involved in any accident and has never suffered any kind of damage. Also this is a non-smoker car. If you have any questions regarding the car or you want extra photos or the CARFAX report (for free) just let me know!
I’m a pilot on cargo flights. My wife broke up with me recently because I’m always away from home. We just sold our house and split the money. This is the last thing I need to sell and split the money with her.
Because I’m away most of the time I will not be able to deal in person. But I’ve already arranged the shipping and the title transfer anywhere in the US. I will pay the shipping fees.
I want the payment to be handled by MSN Autos. They will keep the money until you will receive and inspect the car. You will have 7 days of inspection period. If the car is not like described you will have to ship it back on my expense and they will give you a full refund. This way, you will be able to inspect the vehicle before committing to buy it and I know that you have the money and you aren’t just fooling around.
Giving the nature of this transaction please note that my sale terms are final and nonnegotiable. In order to move forward I will need your full name, address and phone number.
I don’t want to offend you, but the car is priced for a fast sale so please if you intend to apply for a loan or financing do not reply to this message!
Chris Larsen”
As you can tell very similar story. What made me suspicious was his accent (mideastern), his inability to tell me what type of pilot ratings he had, that he flew a cargo Boeing 737 for Lufthansa (they fly MD11 cargos), and that he had already arranged shipping through a company he would not name.
Remember…because it holds true…if something seems too good to be true then it probably is!!!
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November 10th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Stef says:
Hello Turbo91189,
That is word for word (minus the make/model of vehicle) what that man posted in the email to my Dad. Sounds like you know your aircraft, my Dad said. He’s been in Aviation for 30 some-odd years. Are you still in contact with him, or did he happen to give you an active-link for his fake MSN AUTOS website? If you still have that link, I can track the origin of the website.. Probably should speak in email. -Stef
December 11th, 2009 at 3:00 am